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    The Maori Bling

    Post by Linda on Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:55 am

    Hey you Maori folk out there!

    Could someone please explain the significance of the Maori medallion Stan wears around his neck. Is it supposed to be like a symbol of him becoming a man or............ Please explain?


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    Post by Hikoi on Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:28 pm

    Okay, here's what I know... the Maori's have a word called "taonga" which means something that they deem "treasured" eg.heirloom, carving, land. A taonga doesnt have to be of the physical nature either.

    A Bone carving such as the one Stan has can be classed as such. It was given to him at the NZ Maori Awards. I dont know who by,or why, but whale bone or greenstone (pounamu) carvings can only be given to you, you can not buy your own. Some are passed down, some are given in recognition/respect for one reason or another and some are gifts.
    They are highy prized and hold a strong source of spiritual connection and comfort to the owner.

    It is believed that they will give you bad luck if they are stolen.
    Stan was rapt to get one, its a highly spiritual and emotional experience to get one.

    Hopefully I've done the explanation justice, please correct or add something if anyone needs to!


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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by Ataahua on Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:37 pm

    thanks for explaining the symbolism to us, Hikoi. :)

    just curious though...can anybody give one of those whale bone carvings, to anybody? so for example, does the person giving need to be older than the person receiving?


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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by josephineperrot on Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:55 pm

    thank you linda for asking the question and thank you Hikoi for answering it! Tes does not matter what age the person is that gives or receives a carving, some get their's bless then give them to someone else..lovely actually. My 3 oldest daughters have Maori blood in them and I have never brought them a bone/jade carving or necklace I have given them paua jewellery ( made with the abalone shells )
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    Post by Ataahua on Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:58 pm

    oh okay...thanx Josephine!


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    Post by josephineperrot on Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:16 pm

    but then you can buy some carvings and they are great to wear. I know a few Maori relatives have brought their's from shops that specialise in Maori artwork! you could wear one Tes even though your not Maori you could always ask someone to bless it for you..hopefully Hikoi can tell us more about it..I know some of the culture do things in the traditional way like some of the Polynesians like the Maori tattoing ( sorry forgot the Maori word for this) is done in the traditional way with a bone ..very painful..I love learning about different cultures and their traditions..
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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by Ataahua on Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:19 pm

    but I'm not planning to go to NZ anytime soon to buy one....but when I do, I'll get Stan to bless it for me, HAHAHAHAA!! lol!


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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by fynesthorse on Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:37 pm

    coool , ive learnt something new today =) yess those traditional tattoos do look very painful ever since i watched the ' tattooist ' ( based on the samoan tattoo ) & hearing my mates get theirs done :S lols .. ataahua im with you for stan to bless it Wink LMAOO !
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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by Hikoi on Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:08 pm

    josephineperrot wrote:but then you can buy some carvings and they are great to wear. I know a few Maori relatives have brought their's from shops that specialise in Maori artwork! you could wear one Tes even though your not Maori you could always ask someone to bless it for you..hopefully Hikoi can tell us more about it..I know some of the culture do things in the traditional way like some of the Polynesians like the Maori tattoing ( sorry forgot the Maori word for this) is done in the traditional way with a bone ..very painful..I love learning about different cultures and their traditions..



    I'll try my best but you've stumbled upon one of the "white-ist" maoris you'll ever find!! Lol!!

    I do know that Maori believe in blessing and cleansing pounamu pendants before giving them (particularly when giving to another Maori).
    Its then wrapped,(trying not to touch it )and briefly given to a few friends or family of the reciever who take it out and hold it in their hands briefly,who think positive thoughts, be they healing, strengthening , protective, encouraging, creative & or comforting. Its then rewrapped until its given to the recipient. Then handling the stone as little as possible, it is hung around the neck of the reciever. The lady who blessed my friends stone (they have to be recomended, because blessings a big thing)said his stone had 2 spirit guardians who would watch over him.
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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by Simona on Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:57 pm

    Love learning traditions from another culture. thank you everyone for the interesting info.

    I saw Stan receiving another carved piece during his interview with the Maori TV the day after the GF.
    He was amazed by the gift and he put it on straight away (as necklace).
    The interviewer gave to him and when she did she leaned toward his face and they both touched the tip of each other nose. Stan was moved, almost teary.
    I felt was a great occasion for him.

    Is that what you guys are talking about? if yes, did he receive two gifts? (the necklaces) how can he decide which one he's going to wear now? is one more prestigious/important than the other?
    and also, the touching with the noses... so affascinanting... what's the name of that gesture? thanks


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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by fynesthorse on Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:18 am

    Simona7 wrote:
    and also, the touching with the noses... so affascinanting... what's the name of that gesture? thanks

    im pretty sure the gesture of touching with the noses is called the hongi- a traditional maori greeting where the breath of life is exchanged and intermingled ..

    if im not wrong , lols but im sure the others can add to this and answer your other questions :)

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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by Simona on Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:22 am

    thanks fynest

    Love the hongi .... seems so spiritual and intimate ... can't wait to hear if anyone else can add details to it.


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    Post by josephineperrot on Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:31 am

    yes the Eskimos touch noses as well and thank you Hikoi again! yes like the Maori Healers everything can work if you believe in it! my mother been Samoan use to do the Samoan Massage for women who could not fall pregnant and it worked ..I do not know if it was the massage or they believe it..your mind is a powerful tool..
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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by Ataahua on Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:37 am

    fynesthorse wrote:...where the breath of life is exchanged and intermingled ..

    I know who I want to have the breath of life exchanged and intermingled with....


    thx for the extra info, fynest!


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    Post by fynesthorse on Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:40 am

    Ataahua wrote:
    I know who I want to have the breath of life exchanged and intermingled with....

    ahaha , yess ataahua i know what you mean Wink LMAO ! wooo wooo !
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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by Hikoi on Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:18 am

    Lol! Settle! :^0:
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    Post by Linda on Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:15 am

    Cool! That explains a lot and why he found it so important to have and waer. You guys rock!


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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by fynesthorse on Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:45 pm

    wooo wooo ! hehe , LOLS !!
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    Post by josephineperrot on Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:06 pm

    thanks linda even if you did not mean I rock lol..just pretend I do at my old age

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    Re: The Maori Bling

    Post by kaha on Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:06 pm

    My mum and dad have both bought me necklaces - one is a geenstone tiki and the other a whalebone carving of a koru.

    The importance of the touching of the noses is also a traditional welcoming. If you ever get to NZ, check out one of the culture shows, Rotorua has one of the best. The tour guides take you out t o a Maori village where you are greeted as an enemy. The Maori men perform a warrior dance then, place a branch at your feet - if you pick it up you are perceived as a friend. The chief warrior then greets you with the hongi - the sharing of the breath you become one.

    The Maoris take this very seriously and I have heard of backpacker getting headbutted by the Maori chief for laughing while he was was doing this!!

    Apologies if I have mistaken the above

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    Post by fynesthorse on Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:38 pm

    cooool , thanks kaha .. ive only been to n.z to visit the fams in auckland but the next time i go i wouldnt mind checking out the culture shows , sounds very interestingg :)
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    Post by Linda on Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:41 pm

    Thanks Kaha!

    When you visit NZ fYN, can you see if you can buy me the accent. I just LURV tha kiwi accent. I have a buddy who is from NZ and I'm always getting her to say stuff.


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    Post by fynesthorse on Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:48 pm

    ahaaa linda , suree ill buy you the accent , hehe , lols .. im forever mocking my kiwi cousins with their accent :^0: & they mock me back .. its hilarious esp the pronouncing of fish & chips , its fun war over there , likee all of them kiwis against me the aussie :^0: hehe buht cant wait to go there again :) ..


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    Post by Linda on Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:50 pm

    It sounds great. I'm going to have to me my (_|_) there one day soon. Naomi came from the South Island but I hear the north is a little warmer LOL


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    Post by josephineperrot on Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:02 pm

    you can have my accent Linda..it is very kiwi..lol..it is warmer in the north island in winter but in summer south island is lovely

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